11:51 - what is the role of compassion in enlightenment?
12:12 - compassion is not an absolute, compassion is relative bodhicitta - the enlightened mind (bodhi - enlightenment; citta - consciousness, mind)
12:38 - there's a relative bodhicitta and an absolute bodhicitta
12:42 - absolute bodhicitta is sunyata (emptiness), relative bodhicitta is compassion
13:00 - the practice of compassion will not lead you to enlightenment
13:25 - absolute bodhicitta awakens you from the dream, relative bodhicitta prevents the dream from becoming a nightmare
13:37 - the practice of compassion makes the dream as relatively comfortable as it can be
13:49 - but it won't wake you up
14:10 - should a person practice compassion before enlightenment, or after?
14:39 - you practice compassion before enlightenment, because after enlightenment, you tend to not want to change anything
16:58 - what is the relation between states and stages and compassion and sunyata?
17:20 - lines have structures / stages
17:35 - in Mahayana, sila is ethics, dhyana is meditation, prajna is illumination / awakening
18:22 - if you're dealing with the relative / form side, you're dealing with structures, if you're dealing with the absolute / emptiness side, you're dealing with the ultimate state
20:30 - crazy wisdom isn't wisdom
25:01 - it's healthy to have a sense of confidence and a sense of humility
28:29 - there's nothing more dangerous than a contemplative without direction - Merton
29:24 - we honor the traditions and the accumulated wisdom they offer,
29:45 - and we take the next step, begin the fourth turning
30:04 - you do not need to adopt pre-industrial, feudalistic, mythic, agrarian, patriarchal values of a religion in order to attain enlightenment
30:31 - at earlier stages of development, those values are perfectly appropriate
30:35 - but we also include each tradition's higher teachings
32:01 - is holding on to a tradition a filter?
33:36 - disengaging with the values of a particular religion is stage development
34:33 - we make the mistake of thinking that the limited values of a stage are the problem of a particular religion (e.g. Christianity)
34:45 - and so we reject that religion, thinking that it is that religion that is generating the stage
34:48 - we could develop through the stages while staying in one religion,
34:54 - but many jump from one religion to another
35:06 - but it must be realized that the modality of expression (a particular religion) is irrelevant to vertical stage development
35:14 - everybody is born at the beginning of the hierarchy, and everyone is at a particular level of the hierarchy
35:28 - so there needs to be a conveyor belt that can take people through the hierarchy
36:38 - god and spirituality mean different things to different levels - the hierarchy exists in all traditions, all paths, all lines
Friday, March 13, 2009
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