Sunday, March 15, 2009

Boomeritis Buddhism (Jan 28 2007) part 2

2:54 - part of our practice is to allow the thinking mind to arise in the openness, emptiness

7:01 - there is a relative and an absolute truth, they're not two, but they're also not one

7:41 - we acknowledge all manifestations of the relative realm of form as they arise in samsara

9:54 - part of the problem is that when people have an experience of big mind / one taste, because it's not different from anything else that's arising, they confuse the phenomena of their relative egoic self as the absolute

20:22 - western psychology has developed a quite sophisticated hierarchy that makes finer-grained distinctions than eastern systems have

22:25 - so eastern traditions saw green and yellow / turquoise as the same level

26:00 - the pre-trans fallacy

26:08 - pre-verbal and trans-verbal are both non-verbal, but they are not the same thing; pre-conventional and post-conventional are both non-conventional, but they are not the same thing; pre-rational and trans-rational are both non-rational, but they are not the same thing

27:05 - in the popular western new age spirituality of the last thirty years, only two dimensions had been identified: egoic rationality (bad) and everything else (God)

27:32 - so a lot of crap has been identified as trans-rational, Buddha nature, Christ consciousness, spiritual advancement, etc.

35:10 - you're going to interpret your state experience according to your stage

35:52 - when someone at green says that everything is mutually interrelating and interpenetrating, it doesn't mean the same thing as when someone at second tier says that

39:33 - the chakra system is a good hierarchical model, but doesn't make enough distinctions

44:24 - most states don't occur in stages, they're just random experiences

44:53 - but trained states will unfold in stages

46:19 - the state someone can have is independent of their structure / stage / level

46:45 - meditation and/or other techniques of repeatedly exposing oneself to psychic / subtle / causal / nondual states can help advance one up a stage or so, but it helps to have the quadrants support that growth

47:05 - if the idea of hierarchies and ranking people doesn't sit well with you, you're green

47:41 - the problem is that green confuses "everybody is equal, no one is better or higher or lower than anyone else" (green values) with Maha Ati

47:51 - that's a confusing of relative and absolute truth, and that's Boomeritis Buddhism

49:10 - another problem: using emptiness as an excuse for unskillful behavior

49:35 - how helpful are the Mahayana teachings to our everyday lives?

49:45 - the idea of emptiness as lack of inherent existence is not really what the Buddha taught

49:56 - the Buddha's teachings on emptiness deal directly with actions and their results

50:04 - to understand and experience emptiness requires a personal integrity willing to admit the motivations behind your actions and an acknowledgment of the actual benefit and harm they cause

52:21 - the purpose of the Madyamaka dialectic is to dislodge any relative belief

52:48 - by showing that all phenomena are interdependent, that none of them have any inherent or absolute reality

52:58 - all phenomena depend on each other, none of them are self-contained or self-existing

53:15 - western Buddhist scholars looked at that and confused it with systems theory

53:50 - the short version (equally wrong): emptiness means no concepts, no rationality, whatever feelings come up, whatever you want to do is cool, man

54:35 - emptiness is neither conceptual nor non-conceptual nor both nor neither

55:03 - if you want to play with emptiness, do the work

55:11 - Americans tend to want to leap straight to Maha Ati, without putting in the necessary preliminary work

56:11 - (as well as conflating it with their green values)

58:32 - on the absolute plane there is neither self nor is there no-self

58:56 - nirvana and samsara both coarise; both are relative

59:02 - the tantric understanding is that all that arises in samsara is one with nirvana

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