Thursday, March 26, 2009

Shadow and Disowned Self (Feb 25 2007) part 3

4:49 - the shadow of green: the Jonah complex

9:45 - Ken's decided to drop the term 'psychic', which is good I guess; that term has been fairly exclusively co-opted by the new agers

9:53 - but it'll take me awhile to get used to saying "indigo - subtle - causal - nondual"

10:20 - and, honestly, paramind, metamind, overmind and supermind sounds incredibly goofy to me (but I suppose we're stuck with it now)

10:32 - by the time you get to psychic / paramind / indigo, you have permanently objectified all gross phenomena

10:40 - that's why nature mysticism experiences come about - oneness with the entire gross realm, because all of the gross objects have now been disidentified with

11:03 - at the subtle / metamind / violet / archetypal level all of the subtle objects have been objectified, bringing about lucid dreaming, etc.

11:41 - structures are inclusive, states are exclusive

12:50 - structures are the way that exclusive states become inclusive, structures are the way that you transcend and include, structures are the way that spirit permanently wakes up

13:11 - at the causal / overmind level it has access to permanent emptiness, but it also has access to all causal, all subtle and all gross objects - they've all been objectified

14:01 - the overmind is over all mind and there is permanent access to the causal state, just as at the metamind you have permanent access to all subtle states, and at the paramind you have permanent access to all gross phenomena

14:24 - gross, psychic, subtle, causal and nondual are states that can be experienced at any stage or level (the Wilber-Combs lattice)

14:59 - a transpersonal awareness state experience, being one with gaia, being one with all of nature (nature mysticism) can happen as a plateau state at any stage or level, but it only becomes a permanent orientation at psychic / paramind / indigo

16:00 - there's still going to be a separate self at psychic / paramind / indigo and at subtle / metamind / violet / archetypal, and then at causal / overmind you have access to the pure self, the true self, as causal emptiness

16:20 - that's the last form of dualism (the witness still separate from that which is witnessed)

16:27 - at nondual / supermind you have the last permanent dissolution of the separate self-sense as a permanent disposition in consciousness

21:10 - group shadows

22:03 - five types of unconscious - ground (potential), archaic, embedded, submergent, emergent

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