3:20 - the twenty tenets are just tendencies; try to hold this stuff loosely
7:30 - a new holon includes eros
7:50 - a new holon has prehension, prehends its preceding moment
8:58 - including is the past determining a holon's present configuration; transcending is introducing novelty / creativity
18:01 - the horizon (the end limit) for vertical development (structures) is supermind (still sounds goofy to me), the horizon for horizontal development (states) is big mind
32:47 - when you understand the difference between states and structures, a lot of the traditions' ideas about ascending and descending paths become much more coherent
36:38 - higher structures eventually include states
46:04 - cultures survive adding a higher stage only if they make the previous stage a workable, functional station of life
Sunday, August 23, 2009
Friday, August 21, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 3
3:44 - meditation can cement you at a certain level
3:51 - if the quadrants are working with you, meditation can help you develop
8:38 - the formless infinite ground, Nirguna Brahman, subsists before humans, but does not exist until humans
45:19 - the theological conundrum: God is all-knowing, all-present and all-good; you can have two of those
53:52 - involutionary givens: what are the minimum requirements needed?
54:26 - 1. eros
56:23 - 2. logos
57:11 - 3. spacetime cosmos
58:42 - when you get an explanation of what those three are, that will vary according to altitude
3:51 - if the quadrants are working with you, meditation can help you develop
8:38 - the formless infinite ground, Nirguna Brahman, subsists before humans, but does not exist until humans
45:19 - the theological conundrum: God is all-knowing, all-present and all-good; you can have two of those
53:52 - involutionary givens: what are the minimum requirements needed?
54:26 - 1. eros
56:23 - 2. logos
57:11 - 3. spacetime cosmos
58:42 - when you get an explanation of what those three are, that will vary according to altitude
Sunday, August 16, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 2
0:10 - enlightenment is not the result of any action (that would make realization temporal)
0:39 - what's happening is you're going through each state one by one, exhaustively seeing that it's not there
4:26 - progression is making each state an object
4:38 - if you can see it, it's not your real self
20:40 - is what's arising dependent on the altitude?
20:57 - the traditions described nondual as the union of emptiness and form, but keep in mind that form is evolving
21:25 - you can have state enlightenment, and only be one with all form up to a certain level
21:37 - if the higher structures haven't arisen in your awareness, you can't be one with them
22:38 - so if we're having a discussion about enlightenment, be sure to determine whether it's vertical enlightenment or horizontal enlightenment
57:33 - nonduality is the union of freedom and fullness
0:39 - what's happening is you're going through each state one by one, exhaustively seeing that it's not there
4:26 - progression is making each state an object
4:38 - if you can see it, it's not your real self
20:40 - is what's arising dependent on the altitude?
20:57 - the traditions described nondual as the union of emptiness and form, but keep in mind that form is evolving
21:25 - you can have state enlightenment, and only be one with all form up to a certain level
21:37 - if the higher structures haven't arisen in your awareness, you can't be one with them
22:38 - so if we're having a discussion about enlightenment, be sure to determine whether it's vertical enlightenment or horizontal enlightenment
57:33 - nonduality is the union of freedom and fullness
Thursday, August 13, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 1
1:53 - the nine yanas, the nine vehicles in Tibetan Buddhism, the stages of meditative development are states of consciousness
2:11 - which is horizontal development
2:15 - vertical development is structures of consciousness
19:57 - social holons are individual holons plus their exchanged artefacts
20:13 - institutions don't have agency; institutions are the pathways that human agency follows
21:09 - socio-cultural holons don't have a dominant monad
24:24 - green has a tendency to not allow development or discussion of growth, because that implies that something is better than something else
34:33 - the ten paramitas are lines
36:56 - there are state-stages of meditation
37:25 - there's a difference between structures of consciousness and states of consciousness
37:30 - and thus, a difference between structure-stages (Loevinger) and state-stages (Underhill, ten ox herding pictures, St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa's seven mansions, etc.)
38:19 - They are both developmental, but are not the same kind of stages
38:31 - meditation and contemplative stages are transpersonal stages (so far so good)
38:39 - modern psychology deals with pre-personal and personal stages (here it comes)
38:44 - so let's stick the transpersonal stages on top! (wrong!)
40:13 - meditation allows you to push wakefulness from the waking state into subtle, causal and nondual (state-stages)
42:22 - what happens in meditation is you wake up; that means literally you push wakefulness into waking, dreaming and deep sleep
44:35 - what's wrong with the statement "you have to be somebody before you can be nobody"?
44:56 - if that were true, then only people at an extremely high level of development could have spiritual experiences (that's obviously wrong)
47:58 - developing through state-stages can help accelerate development through structure-stages
49:08 - in structural development, that statement is of course correct, you have to form an egoic structure before you can transcend it (the same as having to develop rationality first to get to post-rational, etc.)
49:44 - states of consciousness are ever-present; structures aren't ever-present
57:10 - why is enlightenment important?
58:18 - Buddha and Christ didn't have Buddhism and Christianity in mind
58:27 - perfectly realized human being is an oxymoron
58:52 - good definition of awakening: one's awakening to the realization of how ignorant one truly is (awakening as the beginning of spiritual maturity, not the end)
2:11 - which is horizontal development
2:15 - vertical development is structures of consciousness
19:57 - social holons are individual holons plus their exchanged artefacts
20:13 - institutions don't have agency; institutions are the pathways that human agency follows
21:09 - socio-cultural holons don't have a dominant monad
24:24 - green has a tendency to not allow development or discussion of growth, because that implies that something is better than something else
34:33 - the ten paramitas are lines
36:56 - there are state-stages of meditation
37:25 - there's a difference between structures of consciousness and states of consciousness
37:30 - and thus, a difference between structure-stages (Loevinger) and state-stages (Underhill, ten ox herding pictures, St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa's seven mansions, etc.)
38:19 - They are both developmental, but are not the same kind of stages
38:31 - meditation and contemplative stages are transpersonal stages (so far so good)
38:39 - modern psychology deals with pre-personal and personal stages (here it comes)
38:44 - so let's stick the transpersonal stages on top! (wrong!)
40:13 - meditation allows you to push wakefulness from the waking state into subtle, causal and nondual (state-stages)
42:22 - what happens in meditation is you wake up; that means literally you push wakefulness into waking, dreaming and deep sleep
44:35 - what's wrong with the statement "you have to be somebody before you can be nobody"?
44:56 - if that were true, then only people at an extremely high level of development could have spiritual experiences (that's obviously wrong)
47:58 - developing through state-stages can help accelerate development through structure-stages
49:08 - in structural development, that statement is of course correct, you have to form an egoic structure before you can transcend it (the same as having to develop rationality first to get to post-rational, etc.)
49:44 - states of consciousness are ever-present; structures aren't ever-present
57:10 - why is enlightenment important?
58:18 - Buddha and Christ didn't have Buddhism and Christianity in mind
58:27 - perfectly realized human being is an oxymoron
58:52 - good definition of awakening: one's awakening to the realization of how ignorant one truly is (awakening as the beginning of spiritual maturity, not the end)
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