Thursday, March 12, 2009

States and Stages (Jan 21 2007) part 3

6:33 - structure = probability cloud (50% at the level, 25% above it, 25% below it)

10:32 - use it or lose it

12:18 - chakras have a structure and a state

13:11 - each chakra has an ida, pingala and a central channel - those are states, with a waking, dreaming, nondual aspect

15:03 - even an awakened zen master continues to sit - use it or lose it

18:14 - it's easy to mistake a peak experience as full enlightenment

18:57 - you can actually end up worse off

19:30 - a major problem arises when you start to think that some of your misunderstandings are backed by the authority of God

21:27 - enlightenment is an accident - meditation makes you accident prone (you'll come across this saying often)

26:26 - anyone can have a peak experience and sustain it into a plateau experience

30:38 - two things can happen with sustained practice in one line

30:57 - stage development can occur in the line

31:25 - a line can become a state transformative practice - you can have a psychic / subtle / causal / nondual state experience at any stage in the line

34:19 - there's a difference between a temporary state and a permanent stage trait acquisition

34:51 - stations are plateau experiences, not structures / stages

35:25 - when a temporary state becomes a permanent trait, that's applying just to a station, just a plateau

35:51 - we have to acknowledge the stage within the line the state is operating in

36:45 - permanent traits are not structures

36:51 - temporary states do not become structures, they become permanent plateaus

37:21 - states and stations / plateaus are both first person experiences, structures are third person assessments

41:20 - the more you experience states that are above your present interpretive capacity, the more it helps move you up

43:06 - learning a state in one line tends to make it easier to access that state in another line

48:03 - does the shadow develop?

49:19 - lines are independent

49:25 - the shadow can develop all the way up

50:12 - it is possible for damaged / broken / dissociated shadow elements to be present in the higher stages of development,

50:18 - but it is less and less likely, because it is less and less likely that a shadow-burdened person will develop that high

52:30 - what is needed for nondual realization is to realize that your fundamental identity is emptiness, and that it is one with everything that arises

52:47 - you can have that realization at any level / stage

57:35 - you learn select things from a teacher, not anything in areas the teacher is not competent in

58:58 - learning vertical development is the integral contribution to spiritual study

59:15 - people have different values and perspectives, as they travel through the psychic / subtle / causal / nondual states

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