Wednesday, April 1, 2009

A Miracle Called We (Mar 11 2007) part 4

3:27 - is the student-guru relationship one of I-thou? does this get confused with a second-person relationship with God?

3:34 - yeah, pretty much

3:38 - in the ideal, theoretical student-guru relationship, the relationship models the relationship to God in the second person by seeing the guru as spirit incarnate

3:55 - thus helping students find their own spirit in first person (because eventually you identify with the guru)

4:08 - note that it almost never works out this way

6:09 - it doesn't seem like groups have stages, exactly

13:22 - how do you move a dominant mode of resonance up?

24:13 - mature monogamy: the other person is a partner in awakening (Robert Masters' work)

35:26 - skillful means: how do we communicate 2nd tier concepts to 1st tier?

36:39 - first, know the audience: one on one or a group or an informal gathering, etc.

36:55 - translate 2nd tier ideas into 1st tier versions

55:49 - self-awareness is not present at all levels

58:54 - first person perspective develops at age three to five, egocentric

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