6:44 - development to second tier is necessary for even understanding this stuff
10:41 - fear diminishes at second tier
Tuesday, January 4, 2011
Monday, January 3, 2011
1-03. Full Enlightenment
16:40 - spiritual experiences are states (and can be experienced at any level/stage)
18:04 - there are four major stages of meditation
18:11 - these are the major states of consciousness
18:18 - gross to subtle to causal to nondual
18:22 - the traditions identify four or five major states of consciousness - waking, dreaming (subtle awareness), deep formless sleep, witnessing (turiya), turiyatita (nondual)
18:51 - although these states will tend to unfold in this order, they are fairly fluid
19:04 - a peak experience of a higher state can happen because they are always present in all at all times
19:15 - but peak experiences of structures can't happen
19:51 - you can experience any state while being at any structure
22:00 - why wouldn't a higher state bring someone up to a higher structure?
22:26 - because the surrounding culture plays a part
22:31 - line development is uneven
23:48 - peak experiences are interpreted from the level the experiencer or the surrounding culture is centered at
18:04 - there are four major stages of meditation
18:11 - these are the major states of consciousness
18:18 - gross to subtle to causal to nondual
18:22 - the traditions identify four or five major states of consciousness - waking, dreaming (subtle awareness), deep formless sleep, witnessing (turiya), turiyatita (nondual)
18:51 - although these states will tend to unfold in this order, they are fairly fluid
19:04 - a peak experience of a higher state can happen because they are always present in all at all times
19:15 - but peak experiences of structures can't happen
19:51 - you can experience any state while being at any structure
22:00 - why wouldn't a higher state bring someone up to a higher structure?
22:26 - because the surrounding culture plays a part
22:31 - line development is uneven
23:48 - peak experiences are interpreted from the level the experiencer or the surrounding culture is centered at
Sunday, January 2, 2011
1-02. Markers of Development
1:08 - How would you interpret the constitution? constructionists want to find the primal meaning of the framers
1:25 - you have to take into account the kosmic addresses, the altitude of the people who wrote it, and the altitude of the people interpreting it
2:22 - are there signs to show that a practitioner is moving in the right direction or the wrong direction? how do you know what is positive and healthy and what is pathological?
3:14 - we don't know all of them, we're still learning
3:41 - impulses and drives change from stage to stage, so eventually you don't have the desire to do anything deleterious to your well-being
4:19 - lines develop unevenly
5:17 - horizontal health is balancing
5:47 - the four quadrants are connected
7:10 - first person meditation can lead to the pure self, absolute subjectivity
7:45 - but ego can still hide, you might have gone from small ego to big ego
8:01 - and there's no real way to tell
8:04 - a lot of Mahayana Buddhists were bypassing the great Thou, the thing bigger than themselves
8:14 - don't overlook spirit-in-second-person
8:28 - spirit-in-second person forces you to let go, to surrender your ego
8:41 - just developing the upper left and nothing else is unbalanced
9:19 - is horizontal development necessary for vertical growth?
9:27 - the more you balance the quadrants at any stage, the healthier the horizontal translation, the more rapidly you transform
10:20 - men tend to pay too much attention to I or It, women tend to pay too much attention to We
11:21 - something can still go wrong in the lower levels even after your center of gravity has moved past them
11:38 - you can see this with the many cases of spiritual teachers who are unhealthy and unbalanced
12:48 - discipline is quite a taboo in America these days
13:16 - discipline is required for spiritual growth
14:04 - Aurobindo's two heart centers
17:01 - structures of consciousness - Graves, Loevinger, Kegan, Piaget, Kohlberg, etc. - zone two
17:15 - you don't find structures in the great spiritual traditions - the traditions are phenomenological, and can't be seen through introspection
1:25 - you have to take into account the kosmic addresses, the altitude of the people who wrote it, and the altitude of the people interpreting it
2:22 - are there signs to show that a practitioner is moving in the right direction or the wrong direction? how do you know what is positive and healthy and what is pathological?
3:14 - we don't know all of them, we're still learning
3:41 - impulses and drives change from stage to stage, so eventually you don't have the desire to do anything deleterious to your well-being
4:19 - lines develop unevenly
5:17 - horizontal health is balancing
5:47 - the four quadrants are connected
7:10 - first person meditation can lead to the pure self, absolute subjectivity
7:45 - but ego can still hide, you might have gone from small ego to big ego
8:01 - and there's no real way to tell
8:04 - a lot of Mahayana Buddhists were bypassing the great Thou, the thing bigger than themselves
8:14 - don't overlook spirit-in-second-person
8:28 - spirit-in-second person forces you to let go, to surrender your ego
8:41 - just developing the upper left and nothing else is unbalanced
9:19 - is horizontal development necessary for vertical growth?
9:27 - the more you balance the quadrants at any stage, the healthier the horizontal translation, the more rapidly you transform
10:20 - men tend to pay too much attention to I or It, women tend to pay too much attention to We
11:21 - something can still go wrong in the lower levels even after your center of gravity has moved past them
11:38 - you can see this with the many cases of spiritual teachers who are unhealthy and unbalanced
12:48 - discipline is quite a taboo in America these days
13:16 - discipline is required for spiritual growth
14:04 - Aurobindo's two heart centers
17:01 - structures of consciousness - Graves, Loevinger, Kegan, Piaget, Kohlberg, etc. - zone two
17:15 - you don't find structures in the great spiritual traditions - the traditions are phenomenological, and can't be seen through introspection
Saturday, January 1, 2011
1-01. Ken’s Introduction
Starting over, using the track times for the A Deeper Cut series.
0:24 - the twenty tenets are third person statements about third person objects
0:36 - the first person view is feeling, prehension, direct phenomenological feeling
0:44 - is everything constructed of holons? that's true on one level, but everything is actually constructed of perspectives (because something is a perspective before it's anything else)
0:24 - the twenty tenets are third person statements about third person objects
0:36 - the first person view is feeling, prehension, direct phenomenological feeling
0:44 - is everything constructed of holons? that's true on one level, but everything is actually constructed of perspectives (because something is a perspective before it's anything else)
Sunday, August 23, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 4
3:20 - the twenty tenets are just tendencies; try to hold this stuff loosely
7:30 - a new holon includes eros
7:50 - a new holon has prehension, prehends its preceding moment
8:58 - including is the past determining a holon's present configuration; transcending is introducing novelty / creativity
18:01 - the horizon (the end limit) for vertical development (structures) is supermind (still sounds goofy to me), the horizon for horizontal development (states) is big mind
32:47 - when you understand the difference between states and structures, a lot of the traditions' ideas about ascending and descending paths become much more coherent
36:38 - higher structures eventually include states
46:04 - cultures survive adding a higher stage only if they make the previous stage a workable, functional station of life
7:30 - a new holon includes eros
7:50 - a new holon has prehension, prehends its preceding moment
8:58 - including is the past determining a holon's present configuration; transcending is introducing novelty / creativity
18:01 - the horizon (the end limit) for vertical development (structures) is supermind (still sounds goofy to me), the horizon for horizontal development (states) is big mind
32:47 - when you understand the difference between states and structures, a lot of the traditions' ideas about ascending and descending paths become much more coherent
36:38 - higher structures eventually include states
46:04 - cultures survive adding a higher stage only if they make the previous stage a workable, functional station of life
Friday, August 21, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 3
3:44 - meditation can cement you at a certain level
3:51 - if the quadrants are working with you, meditation can help you develop
8:38 - the formless infinite ground, Nirguna Brahman, subsists before humans, but does not exist until humans
45:19 - the theological conundrum: God is all-knowing, all-present and all-good; you can have two of those
53:52 - involutionary givens: what are the minimum requirements needed?
54:26 - 1. eros
56:23 - 2. logos
57:11 - 3. spacetime cosmos
58:42 - when you get an explanation of what those three are, that will vary according to altitude
3:51 - if the quadrants are working with you, meditation can help you develop
8:38 - the formless infinite ground, Nirguna Brahman, subsists before humans, but does not exist until humans
45:19 - the theological conundrum: God is all-knowing, all-present and all-good; you can have two of those
53:52 - involutionary givens: what are the minimum requirements needed?
54:26 - 1. eros
56:23 - 2. logos
57:11 - 3. spacetime cosmos
58:42 - when you get an explanation of what those three are, that will vary according to altitude
Sunday, August 16, 2009
Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 2
0:10 - enlightenment is not the result of any action (that would make realization temporal)
0:39 - what's happening is you're going through each state one by one, exhaustively seeing that it's not there
4:26 - progression is making each state an object
4:38 - if you can see it, it's not your real self
20:40 - is what's arising dependent on the altitude?
20:57 - the traditions described nondual as the union of emptiness and form, but keep in mind that form is evolving
21:25 - you can have state enlightenment, and only be one with all form up to a certain level
21:37 - if the higher structures haven't arisen in your awareness, you can't be one with them
22:38 - so if we're having a discussion about enlightenment, be sure to determine whether it's vertical enlightenment or horizontal enlightenment
57:33 - nonduality is the union of freedom and fullness
0:39 - what's happening is you're going through each state one by one, exhaustively seeing that it's not there
4:26 - progression is making each state an object
4:38 - if you can see it, it's not your real self
20:40 - is what's arising dependent on the altitude?
20:57 - the traditions described nondual as the union of emptiness and form, but keep in mind that form is evolving
21:25 - you can have state enlightenment, and only be one with all form up to a certain level
21:37 - if the higher structures haven't arisen in your awareness, you can't be one with them
22:38 - so if we're having a discussion about enlightenment, be sure to determine whether it's vertical enlightenment or horizontal enlightenment
57:33 - nonduality is the union of freedom and fullness
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