Thursday, August 13, 2009

Integral Post Metaphysics (May 27 2007) part 1

1:53 - the nine yanas, the nine vehicles in Tibetan Buddhism, the stages of meditative development are states of consciousness

2:11 - which is horizontal development

2:15 - vertical development is structures of consciousness

19:57 - social holons are individual holons plus their exchanged artefacts

20:13 - institutions don't have agency; institutions are the pathways that human agency follows

21:09 - socio-cultural holons don't have a dominant monad

24:24 - green has a tendency to not allow development or discussion of growth, because that implies that something is better than something else

34:33 - the ten paramitas are lines

36:56 - there are state-stages of meditation

37:25 - there's a difference between structures of consciousness and states of consciousness

37:30 - and thus, a difference between structure-stages (Loevinger) and state-stages (Underhill, ten ox herding pictures, St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa's seven mansions, etc.)

38:19 - They are both developmental, but are not the same kind of stages

38:31 - meditation and contemplative stages are transpersonal stages (so far so good)

38:39 - modern psychology deals with pre-personal and personal stages (here it comes)

38:44 - so let's stick the transpersonal stages on top! (wrong!)

40:13 - meditation allows you to push wakefulness from the waking state into subtle, causal and nondual (state-stages)

42:22 - what happens in meditation is you wake up; that means literally you push wakefulness into waking, dreaming and deep sleep

44:35 - what's wrong with the statement "you have to be somebody before you can be nobody"?

44:56 - if that were true, then only people at an extremely high level of development could have spiritual experiences (that's obviously wrong)

47:58 - developing through state-stages can help accelerate development through structure-stages

49:08 - in structural development, that statement is of course correct, you have to form an egoic structure before you can transcend it (the same as having to develop rationality first to get to post-rational, etc.)

49:44 - states of consciousness are ever-present; structures aren't ever-present

57:10 - why is enlightenment important?

58:18 - Buddha and Christ didn't have Buddhism and Christianity in mind

58:27 - perfectly realized human being is an oxymoron

58:52 - good definition of awakening: one's awakening to the realization of how ignorant one truly is (awakening as the beginning of spiritual maturity, not the end)

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