8:33 - there's something more than the everyday, physical, manifest world of sin, separation, samsara
8:51 - there are also states of freedom, liberation, transcendence, salvation
9:02 - but you must give reasons / explanations in support of that position
9:24 - and the reasons / explanations didn't hold
9:34 - because the framework was outmoded
9:46 - transpersonal theorists / spiritual people / proponents of the great chain need to pass the validity claims of modernity and postmodernity
9:49 - the validity claim for modernity is evidence, the validity claim for postmodernity is contextualization
10:34 - we can have a metaphysics that works in modern and postmodern contexts
14:12 - the physical, material, gross world is not the lowest level of the great chain, it's the exterior manifestation of all levels
47:06 - first there is undifferentiated, ineffable unity
47:18 - unity breaks into polarity
48:05 - Spinoza defines substance as an escape from modal, finite, relative thinking to the ineffable unity
48:38 - Ken thinks the absolute ultimate has a different relationship to the relative
48:50 - the ultimate does not give rise to the relative
49:01 - the problem is when we try to philosophize about the absolute without doing the injunctions that give rise to the absolute
49:20 Spinoza identifies substance as having a thousand qualities, including thought and extension; Nagarjuna says that the absolute is not thought or extension or both or neither and cannot be discussed at all (Ken misspoke and said Spinoza when he meant Nagarjuna)
49:43 - the absolute is what you experience when you do an injunction that will allow you to experience the deep formless dream state
50:04 - you can only define the absolute given the injunctions that will give you a realization of Godhead
50:14 - so Spinoza's problem is he is trying to get at the absolute through thought without an injunctive program that will yield realization of the absolute
50:55 - metaphysics is (here defined as) assertion without evidence
51:56 - the only way to arrive at nondual is through emptiness (and there must be an injunction to have that experience)
52:11 - that's emptiness united with form; if you don't have the emptiness, then you don't have nonduality (there can't be a union of emptiness and form because you didn't have emptiness to start with)
53:15 - you can always intuit emptiness, the everpresent ground (the left hand quadrants and the right hand quadrants are inseparable)
54:50 - the emptiness described in the traditions is the witness remaining conscious through all states through all 24 hours
55:45 - no injunction, no nonduality
55:59 - you can intuit it, though
Thursday, June 25, 2009
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