12:10 - A boundary creates a universe (cf. G. Spencer Brown)
13:18 - saying that a universe comes into existence when you demarcate an inside from an outside is the same thing as saying that the subject of one moment prehends the previous moment's subject as object (cf. Whitehead)
13:33 - you can't have a singular without a plural
14:29 - the inside and the outside of a singular and a plural is the four quadrants
14:33 - and the four quadrants are irreducible
17:04 - there are a lot of trinities in the traditions, some identifying levels, some identifying quadrants, some identifying states, some identifying types
24:34 - where the danger is, there the healing power lies
24:41 - seen apart from spirit, every occasion is hell, when seen as a manifestation of spirit, every occasion is fully realized heaven and the path to heaven
25:16 - the samskaras / the beginning stages of prehension are the foundation of a path, the path of the creation of the illusion of a self if misunderstood and the path of realization if understood
Friday, January 7, 2011
Thursday, January 6, 2011
1-05. Misinterpreting States and Stages
9:21 - quadrant absolutism
18:39 - structures are structures of first person consciousness
18:49 - bodies hold up the structures
21:21 - technically, gross, subtle and causal do not apply to consciousness - they apply to matter/energy bodies in the upper right quadrant
24:35 - but, yes, occasionally gross, subtle and causal are used to refer to the states of consciousness supported by those bodies
26:12 - you can't move to a different stage by permanently acquiring an altered state - the most you can achieve is a plateau experience
26:31 - you can extend certain understandings that come with states and make that understanding permanently available
27:37 - states can be trained and trained states unfold in stages
28:08 - here's why structures is the better term to use than stages - both structures and states have stages
28:34 - states are mostly random, and tend to not unfold in stages unless trained
28:42 - for the stages of unfolding of trained states, see Underhill, Brown, etc.
18:39 - structures are structures of first person consciousness
18:49 - bodies hold up the structures
21:21 - technically, gross, subtle and causal do not apply to consciousness - they apply to matter/energy bodies in the upper right quadrant
24:35 - but, yes, occasionally gross, subtle and causal are used to refer to the states of consciousness supported by those bodies
26:12 - you can't move to a different stage by permanently acquiring an altered state - the most you can achieve is a plateau experience
26:31 - you can extend certain understandings that come with states and make that understanding permanently available
27:37 - states can be trained and trained states unfold in stages
28:08 - here's why structures is the better term to use than stages - both structures and states have stages
28:34 - states are mostly random, and tend to not unfold in stages unless trained
28:42 - for the stages of unfolding of trained states, see Underhill, Brown, etc.
Tuesday, January 4, 2011
1-04. Uniting Multiple Disciplines
6:44 - development to second tier is necessary for even understanding this stuff
10:41 - fear diminishes at second tier
10:41 - fear diminishes at second tier
Monday, January 3, 2011
1-03. Full Enlightenment
16:40 - spiritual experiences are states (and can be experienced at any level/stage)
18:04 - there are four major stages of meditation
18:11 - these are the major states of consciousness
18:18 - gross to subtle to causal to nondual
18:22 - the traditions identify four or five major states of consciousness - waking, dreaming (subtle awareness), deep formless sleep, witnessing (turiya), turiyatita (nondual)
18:51 - although these states will tend to unfold in this order, they are fairly fluid
19:04 - a peak experience of a higher state can happen because they are always present in all at all times
19:15 - but peak experiences of structures can't happen
19:51 - you can experience any state while being at any structure
22:00 - why wouldn't a higher state bring someone up to a higher structure?
22:26 - because the surrounding culture plays a part
22:31 - line development is uneven
23:48 - peak experiences are interpreted from the level the experiencer or the surrounding culture is centered at
18:04 - there are four major stages of meditation
18:11 - these are the major states of consciousness
18:18 - gross to subtle to causal to nondual
18:22 - the traditions identify four or five major states of consciousness - waking, dreaming (subtle awareness), deep formless sleep, witnessing (turiya), turiyatita (nondual)
18:51 - although these states will tend to unfold in this order, they are fairly fluid
19:04 - a peak experience of a higher state can happen because they are always present in all at all times
19:15 - but peak experiences of structures can't happen
19:51 - you can experience any state while being at any structure
22:00 - why wouldn't a higher state bring someone up to a higher structure?
22:26 - because the surrounding culture plays a part
22:31 - line development is uneven
23:48 - peak experiences are interpreted from the level the experiencer or the surrounding culture is centered at
Sunday, January 2, 2011
1-02. Markers of Development
1:08 - How would you interpret the constitution? constructionists want to find the primal meaning of the framers
1:25 - you have to take into account the kosmic addresses, the altitude of the people who wrote it, and the altitude of the people interpreting it
2:22 - are there signs to show that a practitioner is moving in the right direction or the wrong direction? how do you know what is positive and healthy and what is pathological?
3:14 - we don't know all of them, we're still learning
3:41 - impulses and drives change from stage to stage, so eventually you don't have the desire to do anything deleterious to your well-being
4:19 - lines develop unevenly
5:17 - horizontal health is balancing
5:47 - the four quadrants are connected
7:10 - first person meditation can lead to the pure self, absolute subjectivity
7:45 - but ego can still hide, you might have gone from small ego to big ego
8:01 - and there's no real way to tell
8:04 - a lot of Mahayana Buddhists were bypassing the great Thou, the thing bigger than themselves
8:14 - don't overlook spirit-in-second-person
8:28 - spirit-in-second person forces you to let go, to surrender your ego
8:41 - just developing the upper left and nothing else is unbalanced
9:19 - is horizontal development necessary for vertical growth?
9:27 - the more you balance the quadrants at any stage, the healthier the horizontal translation, the more rapidly you transform
10:20 - men tend to pay too much attention to I or It, women tend to pay too much attention to We
11:21 - something can still go wrong in the lower levels even after your center of gravity has moved past them
11:38 - you can see this with the many cases of spiritual teachers who are unhealthy and unbalanced
12:48 - discipline is quite a taboo in America these days
13:16 - discipline is required for spiritual growth
14:04 - Aurobindo's two heart centers
17:01 - structures of consciousness - Graves, Loevinger, Kegan, Piaget, Kohlberg, etc. - zone two
17:15 - you don't find structures in the great spiritual traditions - the traditions are phenomenological, and can't be seen through introspection
1:25 - you have to take into account the kosmic addresses, the altitude of the people who wrote it, and the altitude of the people interpreting it
2:22 - are there signs to show that a practitioner is moving in the right direction or the wrong direction? how do you know what is positive and healthy and what is pathological?
3:14 - we don't know all of them, we're still learning
3:41 - impulses and drives change from stage to stage, so eventually you don't have the desire to do anything deleterious to your well-being
4:19 - lines develop unevenly
5:17 - horizontal health is balancing
5:47 - the four quadrants are connected
7:10 - first person meditation can lead to the pure self, absolute subjectivity
7:45 - but ego can still hide, you might have gone from small ego to big ego
8:01 - and there's no real way to tell
8:04 - a lot of Mahayana Buddhists were bypassing the great Thou, the thing bigger than themselves
8:14 - don't overlook spirit-in-second-person
8:28 - spirit-in-second person forces you to let go, to surrender your ego
8:41 - just developing the upper left and nothing else is unbalanced
9:19 - is horizontal development necessary for vertical growth?
9:27 - the more you balance the quadrants at any stage, the healthier the horizontal translation, the more rapidly you transform
10:20 - men tend to pay too much attention to I or It, women tend to pay too much attention to We
11:21 - something can still go wrong in the lower levels even after your center of gravity has moved past them
11:38 - you can see this with the many cases of spiritual teachers who are unhealthy and unbalanced
12:48 - discipline is quite a taboo in America these days
13:16 - discipline is required for spiritual growth
14:04 - Aurobindo's two heart centers
17:01 - structures of consciousness - Graves, Loevinger, Kegan, Piaget, Kohlberg, etc. - zone two
17:15 - you don't find structures in the great spiritual traditions - the traditions are phenomenological, and can't be seen through introspection
Saturday, January 1, 2011
1-01. Ken’s Introduction
Starting over, using the track times for the A Deeper Cut series.
0:24 - the twenty tenets are third person statements about third person objects
0:36 - the first person view is feeling, prehension, direct phenomenological feeling
0:44 - is everything constructed of holons? that's true on one level, but everything is actually constructed of perspectives (because something is a perspective before it's anything else)
0:24 - the twenty tenets are third person statements about third person objects
0:36 - the first person view is feeling, prehension, direct phenomenological feeling
0:44 - is everything constructed of holons? that's true on one level, but everything is actually constructed of perspectives (because something is a perspective before it's anything else)
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